recently
i came across a phrase
which initially disturbed me.
"trader who died rich
is the one who dies early."
even livermore died broke!
--
what's the logic behind the above
seemingly un-nerving phrase?
should we not trade?
is trading useless?
i don't think so.
i searched for a suitable answer.
and after some deliberation
i found one.....
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if one makes millions from trading
and keeps trading like jesse livermore
he is bound to succumb to
some unguarded moment
and lose it all.
but
on the other hand
if a successful trader
after making millions
was to turn into an investor
he is assured of dying rich
(if at all he ever dies).
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Sabtu, 02 Juli 2011
Kamis, 30 Juni 2011
slow motion, fast forward
investing is
trading
in slow motion.
trading is
investing
in fast froward.
if you keep this in mind
you will be
relaxed
and can make
better decisions
in both these games.
trading
in slow motion.
trading is
investing
in fast froward.
if you keep this in mind
you will be
relaxed
and can make
better decisions
in both these games.
Jumat, 11 Februari 2011
true investors are like farmers
it is said
'for investing use fundamentals
and for trading use technicals'
these two statements are true lies.
they are grossly mischievous
and universal myths!
--
the first line about investing
is targetted towards those
who are not 'investors' in true real sense.
they are the 'leftovers'
who don't have the know-how and the sense of "investing"
nor do they have the time and sense of trading.
--
they take 'investing using fundamentals' as an alibi.
they superficially check the "fundamentals"
and buy a cheap mask of "investor".
what they take as "fundamentals"
are nothing but clever cookies targetted at their heads
by "hackers"!
fundamentals are not just numbers
fundamentals are foundations!
--
the confidence in the investment is absent
the hearty self-assurance and excitement of having "invested in a promising business"
is missing.
consequently,
expectation or fear of short-term gain or loss
reveals the true colours
of the real "investor" under the garb!
the "investor" absconds!
--
true investors are like farmers
....seeking the potential and promise
of a seed or sapling turning into a tree
or a full grown tree continuing to yield
juicy fruits
season after season!
'for investing use fundamentals
and for trading use technicals'
these two statements are true lies.
they are grossly mischievous
and universal myths!
--
the first line about investing
is targetted towards those
who are not 'investors' in true real sense.
they are the 'leftovers'
who don't have the know-how and the sense of "investing"
nor do they have the time and sense of trading.
--
they take 'investing using fundamentals' as an alibi.
they superficially check the "fundamentals"
and buy a cheap mask of "investor".
what they take as "fundamentals"
are nothing but clever cookies targetted at their heads
by "hackers"!
fundamentals are not just numbers
fundamentals are foundations!
--
the confidence in the investment is absent
the hearty self-assurance and excitement of having "invested in a promising business"
is missing.
consequently,
expectation or fear of short-term gain or loss
reveals the true colours
of the real "investor" under the garb!
the "investor" absconds!
--
true investors are like farmers
....seeking the potential and promise
of a seed or sapling turning into a tree
or a full grown tree continuing to yield
juicy fruits
season after season!
popcorns!
a farmer
put his bumper maize produce
in the tractor trolley
went straight to the market
sold it all
and returned home
with bagfull
of cash.
--
he put the bag of fortune
on the table
opened it
and gave a bunch of currency notes
to his freshly graduated son
"this is for you, enjoy!!!"
--
he, then
picked up the bag
locked it in the almirah locker
and went straight to the store room.
there
he saw
one last big bag full of maize corns
he had kept back.
he emptied the bag
on the floor
and divided it
into two heaps.
--
"what are you doing, dad!"
his son asked
who had followed him into the store room.
--
"this heap, son
is for making popcorns
for all of us
for the rest of the year.
and that heap
i will sow back
as seeds
into the field
for next season's harvest!!!"
son heard this
and went out.
--
the farmer put the two heaps
in separate bags
put them aside
and came out!
--
and there he saw
his son
re-counting the money
he had just got!
"now what are you doing?" the father asked
"this bunch, dad
is for my luxury popcorns
and this one
is for investing!"
put his bumper maize produce
in the tractor trolley
went straight to the market
sold it all
and returned home
with bagfull
of cash.
--
he put the bag of fortune
on the table
opened it
and gave a bunch of currency notes
to his freshly graduated son
"this is for you, enjoy!!!"
--
he, then
picked up the bag
locked it in the almirah locker
and went straight to the store room.
there
he saw
one last big bag full of maize corns
he had kept back.
he emptied the bag
on the floor
and divided it
into two heaps.
--
"what are you doing, dad!"
his son asked
who had followed him into the store room.
--
"this heap, son
is for making popcorns
for all of us
for the rest of the year.
and that heap
i will sow back
as seeds
into the field
for next season's harvest!!!"
son heard this
and went out.
--
the farmer put the two heaps
in separate bags
put them aside
and came out!
--
and there he saw
his son
re-counting the money
he had just got!
"now what are you doing?" the father asked
"this bunch, dad
is for my luxury popcorns
and this one
is for investing!"
Sabtu, 29 Januari 2011
don't let your investments sink
if a stock has moved 200 points in 1 year
how many points can you make in investing in that stock?
obviously not more than 200!
now, if i told u that
this stock
fell by 200 points
and not the other way round
what will be your answer?
again, obviously, you will say
that what to talk of making 200 points
you would have lost 200 points
by remaining invested in this stock
in the last one year!
--
well,
i am talking about reliance industries!
it fell from 1111 to 911 in one year!
--
will you believe me
if i tell you
that there are people in this market
who have made more than
1000 points in reliance industries
in this one year
and that too
when they were
caught
INVESTED
in this stock!!!
yes, it is true!
reliance industries
travelled this 920-1120
delhi-mumbai route
more than 10 times in last 1 year or so!!!
this makes it more than 2000 points!
so, making 1000 points out of this is not a big deal!
--
but how did they do it while staying invested on the long side?
simple
while they stayed invested in the stock
they protected their investment
whenever it took a clear down-trend
by buying put options. --
out of 2000 plus point movement
they managed 1000 odd points.
and that too when the stock's net movement was just 200 points!
while pocketing all the dividends
and making the investment tax free!
--
protect your investment!
it will reward you doubly!!
how many points can you make in investing in that stock?
obviously not more than 200!
now, if i told u that
this stock
fell by 200 points
and not the other way round
what will be your answer?
again, obviously, you will say
that what to talk of making 200 points
you would have lost 200 points
by remaining invested in this stock
in the last one year!
--
well,
i am talking about reliance industries!
it fell from 1111 to 911 in one year!
--
will you believe me
if i tell you
that there are people in this market
who have made more than
1000 points in reliance industries
in this one year
and that too
when they were
caught
INVESTED
in this stock!!!
yes, it is true!
reliance industries
travelled this 920-1120
delhi-mumbai route
more than 10 times in last 1 year or so!!!
this makes it more than 2000 points!
so, making 1000 points out of this is not a big deal!
--
but how did they do it while staying invested on the long side?
simple
while they stayed invested in the stock
they protected their investment
whenever it took a clear down-trend
by buying put options. --
out of 2000 plus point movement
they managed 1000 odd points.
and that too when the stock's net movement was just 200 points!
while pocketing all the dividends
and making the investment tax free!
--
protect your investment!
it will reward you doubly!!
Senin, 17 Januari 2011
identifying a trader among the investors
lets admit it
majority
if not all traders
are into stock trading
not just for money
but
subconsciously
also for the thrill
excitement
and kick
we drive out of trading!
the day we don't trade
or don't get the chance to trade
we feel so uncomfortable!
that is probably
the reason
we make trading opportunities
where none exist!
that is also a probable reason
why we
overtrade!
--
we can't extract the same thrill
from investing
or swing trading
where waiting is substantial.
moreover,
we can't wait
if we keep looking at the score!
--
that is why
majority traders are mentally
not best suited
to be investors!
and there is nothing wrong about it,
it is ok!!!
--
it is not a co-incidence
that i rarely see
a serious trader
who has the habit of drinking!
i can immediately tell
whether the person in the stock market
is a trader or an investor
by just asking one thing
"are you a teetotaler?"
if he is one
i know i am talking to a trader.
if not
then either he is an investor
or he is into an exciting co-occupation
or he is broke
or he is gonnabe...shortly!
--
trading and drinking
are clear signs
of a sinking ship!
--
investing is either for the rich
who have surplus money
and who are in no hurry
to listen to the daily ringing of coins
in the money box!
or
it is for those traders
who are already getting
the adrenalin pumped
from other sources
and are into trading
only for money!
--
trading is one of the biggest
intoxicating
and motivating
and boosting
occupation
or passtime
in th world!
it can delay the suicide plans
of a rich guy!
besides bringing the dead souls back!!!
--
not just the spirit
you will rarely see traders using
or frequently changing
brands
and gadgets
and other costly habits!
they get all the requisite joy
from trading
leaving these toys and lifestyle
to the broke or to the rich investors.
--
(note : i am a teetotaler and strongly recommend the same!)
majority
if not all traders
are into stock trading
not just for money
but
subconsciously
also for the thrill
excitement
and kick
we drive out of trading!
the day we don't trade
or don't get the chance to trade
we feel so uncomfortable!
that is probably
the reason
we make trading opportunities
where none exist!
that is also a probable reason
why we
overtrade!
--
we can't extract the same thrill
from investing
or swing trading
where waiting is substantial.
moreover,
we can't wait
if we keep looking at the score!
--
that is why
majority traders are mentally
not best suited
to be investors!
and there is nothing wrong about it,
it is ok!!!
--
it is not a co-incidence
that i rarely see
a serious trader
who has the habit of drinking!
i can immediately tell
whether the person in the stock market
is a trader or an investor
by just asking one thing
"are you a teetotaler?"
if he is one
i know i am talking to a trader.
if not
then either he is an investor
or he is into an exciting co-occupation
or he is broke
or he is gonnabe...shortly!
--
trading and drinking
are clear signs
of a sinking ship!
--
investing is either for the rich
who have surplus money
and who are in no hurry
to listen to the daily ringing of coins
in the money box!
or
it is for those traders
who are already getting
the adrenalin pumped
from other sources
and are into trading
only for money!
--
trading is one of the biggest
intoxicating
and motivating
and boosting
occupation
or passtime
in th world!
it can delay the suicide plans
of a rich guy!
besides bringing the dead souls back!!!
--
not just the spirit
you will rarely see traders using
or frequently changing
brands
and gadgets
and other costly habits!
they get all the requisite joy
from trading
leaving these toys and lifestyle
to the broke or to the rich investors.
--
(note : i am a teetotaler and strongly recommend the same!)
Minggu, 16 Januari 2011
best stocks for investing and trading
for investing
large caps are dangerous = many will not be the tops in next 5-10 years and slump
mid caps are the least dangerous = many are likely to become large caps in next 5-10 years
small caps are the most dangerous = many are likely to vanish in next 5-10 years
--
for trading
mid caps are dangerous = these can fluctuate a lot even in short term
large caps are the least dangerous = they are least likely to fluctuate big in short term. if they do, they are likely to recover if fundamentals are intact.
small caps are most dangerous = these can fluctuate wildly including in circuit locks
--
caution : only companies with decent corporate governance are being talked here. rest are not worthy of touching except when gambling is acceptable!
large caps are dangerous = many will not be the tops in next 5-10 years and slump
mid caps are the least dangerous = many are likely to become large caps in next 5-10 years
small caps are the most dangerous = many are likely to vanish in next 5-10 years
--
for trading
mid caps are dangerous = these can fluctuate a lot even in short term
large caps are the least dangerous = they are least likely to fluctuate big in short term. if they do, they are likely to recover if fundamentals are intact.
small caps are most dangerous = these can fluctuate wildly including in circuit locks
--
caution : only companies with decent corporate governance are being talked here. rest are not worthy of touching except when gambling is acceptable!
Sabtu, 15 Januari 2011
tomorrow never comes
a labourer won
"creator of the year" award
by the stock traders' society
for building
a 100-storey sky scraper!
--
during the award ceremony
a journalist asked
"how did u make such a huge sky scraper?"
he looked around
and replied
"brick by brick!"
--
the entire auditorium
erupted with a big round of thunderous applause!
--
before the applause died
a business tv reporter asked"
is this sky scraper
an outcome of investing
or positional trading
or swing trading?"
--
the labourer
again thought for a few seconds
and honestly replied
"day trading!
i don't know any other form of trading.
my grandfather had told me that none other exists!
he told me that everything else is a multiple of day trading
and an excuse to take a holiday
or to justify bearing loss!!
the builders never give me more than one day at a time
to build a building.
i have just one day at my disposal.
they don't even give me a tomorrow or even day-after-tomorrow!
if things go wrong
i safegaurd and repair it same day
irrespective of how long
the building is going to take
or how long i intend to be in the trade!
if things are going ok
they still not allow me to work more than a day at a time!
day is all i have got
and day is all i take care of and worry about!
the week
and thereafter
the month
and the year
take care of themselves!"
"creator of the year" award
by the stock traders' society
for building
a 100-storey sky scraper!
--
during the award ceremony
a journalist asked
"how did u make such a huge sky scraper?"
he looked around
and replied
"brick by brick!"
--
the entire auditorium
erupted with a big round of thunderous applause!
--
before the applause died
a business tv reporter asked"
is this sky scraper
an outcome of investing
or positional trading
or swing trading?"
--
the labourer
again thought for a few seconds
and honestly replied
"day trading!
i don't know any other form of trading.
my grandfather had told me that none other exists!
he told me that everything else is a multiple of day trading
and an excuse to take a holiday
or to justify bearing loss!!
the builders never give me more than one day at a time
to build a building.
i have just one day at my disposal.
they don't even give me a tomorrow or even day-after-tomorrow!
if things go wrong
i safegaurd and repair it same day
irrespective of how long
the building is going to take
or how long i intend to be in the trade!
if things are going ok
they still not allow me to work more than a day at a time!
day is all i have got
and day is all i take care of and worry about!
the week
and thereafter
the month
and the year
take care of themselves!"
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